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  1. @JoshTriplettRecommends2025
    It's a good thing you've already decided what answer you want, so you can safely dismiss the generalization of all possible evidence on the basis of "that specific scenario didn't convince me so nothing could possibly happen". You don't have to predict which exact scenario will go horribly wrong in order to accurately make the general prediction that we all lose, permanently. See, among other things, x.com/OwainEvans_UK/status/189443663705… , for a simple example of how myriad superficially unrelated problems can arise out of the underlying issue of misalignment; the problem is not "oh, that one specific thing shouldn't happen", the problem is misalignment with humans.
    Sugar-Coated Poison: Benign Generation Unlocks LLM JailbreakingRead the thread
  2. @hackinthebochsRecommends2025
    LLMs are modelling the world, not just "predicting the next token". They are certainly not akin to parrots. Some examples here[1][2][3]. Anyone claiming otherwise at this point is not arguing in good faith. [1] arxiv.org/abs/2405.15943 [2] x.com/OwainEvans_UK/status/189443663705… [3] anthropic.com/research/tracing-thoughts…...
    Chomsky on what ChatGPT is good for (2023)Read the thread
  3. @tmnvdbCites it2025
    It's linked in the twitter thread from the authors: x.com/OwainEvans_UK/status/189443663705… specifically: x.com/ESYudkowsky/status/18944533762153…
    Emergent Misalignment: Narrow finetuning can produce broadly misaligned LLMs [pdf]Read the thread
  4. @hackinthebochsCites it2025
    >But LLMs are fundamentally, completely, incapable of X. It is not something that can be a result of their processes. This is the very point of contention. You don't get to just assume it. > it is because it is, at its root, a statistical engine generating plausible next tokens, with no semantic understanding of the underlying data. Another highly contentious point you are just outright assuming. LLMs are modelling the world, not just "predicting the next token". Some examples here[1][2][3]. Anyone claiming otherwise at this point is not arguing in good faith. It's interesting how the people with the strongest opinions about LLMs don't seem to understand them. [1] arxiv.org/abs/2405.15943 [2] x.com/OwainEvans_UK/status/189443663705… [3] anthropic.com/research/tracing-thoughts…...
    The Illusion of Thinking: Strengths and limitations of reasoning models [pdf]Read the thread
  5. @hackinthebochsCites it2025
    LLMs are modelling the world, not just "predicting the next token". They are not akin to "stochastic parrots". Some examples here[1][2][3]. Anyone claiming otherwise at this point is not arguing in good faith. There are so many interesting things to say about LLMs, yet somehow the conversation about them is stuck in 2021. [1] arxiv.org/abs/2405.15943 [2] x.com/OwainEvans_UK/status/189443663705… [3] anthropic.com/research/tracing-thoughts…...
    AI Isn't Magic, It's MathsRead the thread

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